Having raised a question Stalin style, so to speak, let me answer in the same style: it was the exclusion from representative politics of all who took a contrary view to the Bolsheviks, sometimes by sending them to concentration camps, and sometimes by murder. Revolution of 1917 in Russia./ Monthly scientific magazine "Discussion", № 3, Yekaterinburg, March 2010, page 8-11. I need a more definitive source. 1 | Might Is Right Network, GOYIM GODDISS-SINEAD EXPOSES THE GDL, PATRICK LITTLE, ADAM GREEN & OTHER DEGENERATE CONTROLLED OPPOSITION TRASH, Dr. William Pierce - Why Revolution is Necessary, Astrix - High On Mind Revolution Remix Full Visual - GetAFix-, Middle east_ BEFORE vs. AFTER the islamic revolution (1960s vs today), Dr. William Luther Pierce - Why Revolution Is Necessary. Mikkalai 17:16, 22 Dec 2004 (UTC), "This second revolution was especially widesweeping, affected both urban areas and the countryside. I do not say that 'Soviet democracy' is a perversion of Marxism; I do say that it is a perversion of democracy. I encourage White Guard to expound upon his views on the 'human soul' in a blog, but this comments section is to be used for discussing the historical -facts- of the Russian Revolution of 1917. The section on the October Revolution is, by far, the worst part of the whole page, biased and inaccurate. Tens of millions of non-Russians were of course affected by the Revolution(s), Civil War and subsequent Sovietisation, but until March 1917 the whole country was called the Russian Empire (excluding Finland and, I think, Poland), hence "Russian Revolution". I have found this website which contains documents (mostly English) about the Russian Revolution. Copyright © 2021 WorldTruth Video. Let us be absolutely clear about one thing: there were two major political events in Russia in 1917-the Revolution in February and the Bolshevik coup in October. 66.227.111.238 16:11, 19 October 2006 (UTC)Fun_ender, I have made some additions to this article in order to create a more useful, less POV, and more scholarly article (I am a historian of Russia by trade). [1]" Online Version: Marxists Internet Archive, 2002, 2003. What evidence is there that recruits to the Russian army in 1914 went unwillingly? Under Social, "As a result, the government drafted new terms that gave the peasants set amounts of land to cultivate. The United States have grasped Russia on February, 23rd, 1917. And Yes, I DO know either way is proper.Saint yondo 12:57, 4 April 2007 (UTC), In the UK Tsar is the accepted transliteration as well86.137.150.39 (talk) 09:56, 19 July 2008 (UTC)DH, I was researching something for a project that i am doing, interpreting the metaphors of "Animal Farm". Of course, rather than argue about this we could simply try stick to NPOV ;), A serious question (well, I am serious about the Assembly Line) -- why Bolshevik and not Russian revolution? Others indicate that simply an excuse for which Stalin and his secessors (?) Other readers will always be interested in your opinion of the books you've read. How do you explain in your 'coup' that the military did not entirely split until -after- Kornilov was defeated by armed workers and peasants? EDIT: By the way, I'm talking about the ones within the body of the article, not in the timeline at the end. Stalin was not an aberration of Bolshevism; he was the quintessance of Leninism as it had developed since 1903, in all its murderous intolerance.”. ", Yes, it should be "the introduction to this article" -- if someone more acquainted with how things are done could bring it to the attention of the relevant authorities, I'm sure everyone would be pleased. 67.142.130.39 02:43, 4 September 2007 (UTC)DAVID, Animal Farm is not necessarily pertinent literature because it is about communism as a whole and not the Russian Revolution of 1917, a specific communist revolution. Well Bloody Sunday is marked as the 9th of October in the Julian calencer, when the change to the Gregorian occurs, Bloody Sunday is infact on the 22nd of October. Anybody care to write some mor about this? All are forms of historicism, and all equally malevolent. There is, nevertheless, no connection between the events of 1905 and 1917. You keep on feebly reiterating that Stalin is not an aberration of Bolshevism, yet you have demonstrated not one causal relationship. Nicholas II did abdicate from being tsar over all Russia, but he did not do it for the Provisional Government to be in charge, he did it naming (originally his son Alexei, then changing it) his brother Grand Duke Mikhail as the next tsar, but Mikhail refused. Why, the Bolsheviks, of course. This is also the official Library of Congress transliteration from Russian. Its confusing and quite abstract but I wouldnt let it worry you, the important facts remain in what happens unless it is in relation to a series of events that requires a chronological review i.e: "on the ..... XYZ happended.... followed by the ..... on the dd/mm/yy..." I really believe it is frivolous to worry about certain dates, I would be more worried about what information, and from whom? The review is not that friendly towards this article. seperate and traverse (?) Don't get me wrong, I agree with but just wanted to point out that they can be called different things depending on the person's POV. Genmed-rus (talk) 17:06, 8 July 2010 (UTC). I've seen it on other articles, cant we do that here? Oh, yes; and on what authority is this contention based? After October 1917, many SR's (members of the Socialist-Revolutionary Party) and Russian Anarchists opposed the Bolsheviks through the soviets. With that in mind, I have made edits in an attempt to keep in non-POV. Initially the Great War was greated with the same mass enthusiasm as elsewhere in Europe. Actually, all power to the soviets meant all power to the working class and their political party: the Bolsheviks. I say nothing about capitalism in my critique of this article; so again, I have no idea where this is coming from.”. get in touch with me if u have any serious ideas or work you think could use my help. Perhaps I can offer an example: What if, in the Encyclopedia Britannica one were to look up Marxism and it stated: "Noun. liberal key-word for 'free' and 'democractic') is a bit off. According to my text book, the killings of the peasents occured on a Friday, not Sunday. The Soviets, being the political organs of the working-class, -elected- Bolsheviks! The term Bolshevik revolution is probably a later term used for the events. if you really read it, then i would like to suggest that in the beginning you should tell about the causes and some condition that led to the event ,here it is russian revolution. Regards, Rich Farmbrough, 23:54, 16 June 2010 (UTC). Anton Kolmykov. I am surprised that nobody has picked up on this obvious Communist bias. Amongst other measures, Lenin authorised the execution of children. TheShadowDawn 01:12, 10 November 2005 (UTC), Thanks for adding those details in. Celestra (talk) 20:22, 2 March 2010 (UTC), {{editsemiprotected}} 'Shoot the mad dogs!' And I would like to add two more subjects for this topic: the origin of Orwell and his probable membership into the British security system (somebody may write its proper name) which I can neither assert nor deny and the fatal deviation made by the movie which is supposedly inspired in the novel written by Orwell. (Oops, sorry; POV-it just slipped in). http://www.hemelbestormer.nl/viewforum.php?f=93, Mjamjamja (talk) 16:21, 27 December 2007 (UTC), I was wondering if the page should be renamed to "Russian Revolutions (1917)". I have not, however, deleted very much, so there are still problems and perhaps redundancies. Finally, I thank God for my own 'bloody and oppressive' forms of democracy, and that I have never had to experience the Soviet kind in any of its forms, from Lenin to Pol Pot. I am going to make a few changes to the article's language becaue I don't feel that it meets wiki standards. Is it based on what you -feel- Marxism should be, or what infact you have read? If I remember correctly Orwell himself was involved in fighting for a Communist party against another Communist regime in Spain. All power to the Soviets in pratice meant all power to the Bolshevik Party, which meant all power to the Council of Peoples Commissars, which meant all power to Lenin and, in the end, all power to Stalin. Who was Alexander Parvus? Thank you. Thank you for flagging this up. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 207.61.149.42 (talk) 18:40, 18 December 2007 (UTC). I say nothing about capitalism in my critique of this article; so again, I have no idea where this is coming from. 'reform from above' is not really a term that is widely used, I would suggest replacing it with: But a bureacracy quickly rose as matieral scarcity gripped the Soviet State following the 2.5 million deaths in WW1, the Civil War lead by the White Tsarist Armies, the failure of Socialist Revolution in Germany, and a 19 country blockade. 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